how are you with javascript? ;) Improving all the time. Why? http://swingmonkey.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4422&start=40#300330 totally lost I hate that everything has to be done without really reloading :( Haha. It so doesn't anymore. That's what AJAX is ;-) in Widgets it does :) Oooh. Dashboard? well I am able to refresh my content area Yeah. yeah, Dashboard it's fun and I'm almost there, I just can't figure out how to recursively add to a date Recursively or repetetively? Waiit. repetitively View next day Then view day after taht Oh. all I need is to be able to add one to a stored variable Well you have a Date. And nextDay returns a string. Not a Date. okay, yes because that's how my rss feeder needs its date should it return a date that's later re-formatted? would that be easier? Yes. Because if today is then not a Date, but a string, then getYear is meaningless. how does it work, then? Lemme look up Date. because it does work :) it just works only once Hehe. How about function nextDay() { var d = new Date(); d.setDate(today.getDate() + 1); } getDate returns a date. getDate + 1 = tomorrow. but it's not in the format I need Now /that/ is a matter of formatting. And best left separate from types. right? It's a Date object. ahah You need a Y-m-d string of the Date object. and js understands that date+1 rolls months and years? YEs. that's pretty cool Because Date is not a string nor an integer. It knows how to apply + to dates. Hehe. Welcome to a real OO language. heh many would argue that I guess js is better than J though Than J? Java sorry Oh, ew. yeah I'd take JS any day. JS doesn't suck as a language. okay, so now I have a date object. Will it remember what "today" is set to repetitively? and do you have a reference for how to string-format a date object? I can learn from that and stop bothering you That's kinda bad design. That's using a ~global variable. Heh, this is interesting on a purely design level. bad how/why? and what's the alternative? I want to be able to page indefinitley into the future Keep your assignments in the same scope. So defining a variable today, outside a function, and then assigning it in the function ties that function to only be useful in contexts where 'today' is a valid date. So. var today = new Date(); still outside the function function nextDay(date) { return date.getDate() + 1; } No assignment in the function Then, say tomorrow = nextDay(today); dayafter = nextDay(tomorrow); Then, to get YMD out of it function toYMD(date) { return date.getYear() + "-" + date.getMonth() + '-' + date.getDay(); } then you can say toYMD(today); or toYMD(tomorrow); and where do I do assignments for today and tomorrow and thefuture? Wherever you need. I'd not do them with separate variables, but a loop instead. d = new Date(); for(i = 0; i < 7; i++) { d = nextDay(d); dosomethingwith(toYMD(d)); why less than 7? } A week. THis is hypothetical. ok So then you get seven dates. and which function to I call onclick? Well, what are you actually doing with this? requesting rss feeds, essentially /me nods My feeder lets me give it dates 'kay. (Really proud of that, actually) So you're trying to make a swingmonkey widget? That shows a weeksworth of stuffs? Or so? a day's worth at a time Sweet. with a button to show tomorrow, etc Aaah! okay. or to show "next day" really so var currentDate; in your main program. That's a program-global concept, so that makes sense. You can store 'the day we're showing' globally, 'cause it's kinda what the widget is for. and when the program starts up, currentDate = new Date(); -- possibly in the initial load, that makes sense to me. So var currentDate = new Date(); On your next-day button, you make a function -- function showNextDay() { } That's your onclick handler. yup currentDate = nextDay(currentDate); I have mostly that structure now displayFeed(url + toYMD(currentDate)); } That's your entire function -- update the current date, and display the feed for it. toYMD does the data type change -- Date to String -- entirely temporarily, since only the URL functions want a string. Dates are best left Dates. And that goes in the handler? Yeah. Okay. I think I can do that. with all this reference material I'm almost certain I can Nice. Find a good intro to the Javascript language. I'm gonna wrap up this training stuff I'm supposed to be doing, boot back to MacOS and see what I can do. not a tutorial for web dev /at all/ -- a tutorial that pretends the web doesn't exist. ++ thanks! That way you can learn the JS language without the crap that is the DOM and the hundred antique ways to do things. Sure! I think that's where I get stuck Best Practices change depending on environment and who's talking Yeah. Though if one studies language design, one gets a feel for the eternal bits. and there's no php.net to tell me exactly how it's _supposed_ to work Javascript is actually a hell of a good OO language. And not half bad as a functional language. And best practices for both of those seem to be getting stable. Hehe. alright. Thanks. I'll be back later from MacOS Ta! wtf. Google didn't log even half of our conversation. Can you email me a log?